Posts by Nathan Natas

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

Nathan Natas

Do you watch "The Walking Dead" on cable?

I hope you do.

When a person becomes a walker, their humanity dies in a way that you are unable to "fix."

The same thing happens to people who become JWs.

She will eat your brains and feed them to her controlling parasites in Bethel.

If that sounds like a good life choice to you, go for it.

When your brain becomes infected with the Watchtower parasite you won't remember this discussion.

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Jehovah's Witness leaders reeling

by Watchtower-Free in

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Nathan Natas

Cute, but in reality the world doesn't concern itself one iota with JWs.

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1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

by berrygerry in

1914the turning point in history.

30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

Nathan Natas

Half banana said, "it could not be said that the WT "always" said that the Kingdom was going to be invisible in the heavens..."

I didn't say that.

I said that "The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has always claimed that what made the year 1914 significant were the events that were taking place in "the realm invisible.""

There is a difference that is perhaps too subtle for you. Stick with it, your reading comprehension may improve.

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1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

by berrygerry in

1914the turning point in history.

30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

Nathan Natas

Simon said, "The 1914 date was something they plucked out of the air..."

Not entirely. If you add 40 years to 1874 you arrive at 1914. The "Bible Basis" for this was 40-days-for-years to allow for the sanctification of the tabernacle. Today there are certainly very few JWs who understand this detail of "Bible-based chronology".

The pivotal year 1874 is thus entombed in Watchtower doctrine.

"God has a set time for every feature of his plan, and that we are even now in this "Day of Vengeance," which is a period of forty years; that it began in October, 1874, and will end in October, 1914 [very shortly]." Studies In the Scriptures Series IV - The Day of Vengeance -pp.546, 547"

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

Nathan Natas

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

Nathan Natas

Smiddy, have you been corresponding with Victor Frankenstein?

It seems your premise *might* be that first there was DEATH, then there was life.

There *might* have been a time, very early in the history of life on earth, (about 4 billion years ago) when there was no predation. Back then all life was in the oceans, and each creature was self-reliant, sustaining life by absorbing energy. Predation had not yet been "invented."

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Hypothetical Question...

by JW_Rogue in

i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.

so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?

is it even possible?

Nathan Natas

JW_Rogue queried, "...what do you think would have to be said from the platform or WT to get people to get up and walk out immediately?"

If the Circuit Servant said, "Get up right NOW and walk outside!" Probably 73% would comply and 4% would drop dead on the spot.

This is not a scientific estimate.

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New Book About Jehovah’s Witnesses Starts Creating a Buzz in The JW and Ex JW Community

by GodZoo in

a recently published book, by best selling author eugene walker has started creating a buzz inside the jehovahs witness community.

in his new book, "jehovah's witnesses exposed - what really goes on inside the kingdom hall walls", eugene walker brings to light hidden issues that many jehovah's witnesses now face in the organisation.. .

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/11/prweb13083118.htm.

Nathan Natas

LisaRose declared, "It should be conscience, not conscious."

I'll bet Eugene is writing in "the tongue of Angels." Angels never had a grasp of Junior High School English.

PLENTY of home-schooled JWs will never even see the error.